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Message 4830 - Posted: 4 Apr 2017, 7:06:27 UTC

Due to some fraud made by part of the team, Me and Goofyx decides to cancel our activity on this project and finish all cooperation with rest of the team.
So, apologise to all volunteers but we had lost half year of work here, and I'm afraid than you too :(

Apologise...
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Message 4831 - Posted: 4 Apr 2017, 9:05:07 UTC - in response to Message 4830.  

Hello Krzysztof,

Sorry to hear that. Could you please share some additional details about the situation?

Thanks
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Message 4832 - Posted: 4 Apr 2017, 10:05:39 UTC

So that seems to mean that it is in effect as of right now?
Most of the server daemons are disabled and I can't return any work.

Is the project dead and buried then?

Or will it struggle on now that you have left and are not doing the day to day running?

Thanks for all your work in the past both Krzysztof and Gooyfyx

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Message 4833 - Posted: 4 Apr 2017, 11:05:28 UTC - in response to Message 4832.  

I have to said with big pain in my heart but at this moment DD@H is buried :( I don't know how long this domain will be work because we aren't it's owner.

This is VERY SAD moment for us (admins) because we put into this many hours of our work to run it.
I hope you will be still trust us (me and Krzysztof) in our acctuall and future projects.
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Message 4834 - Posted: 4 Apr 2017, 11:19:20 UTC - in response to Message 4833.  
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Could you please share some details or it's under NDA or smth like this? Thanks
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Message 4835 - Posted: 4 Apr 2017, 11:39:52 UTC

We just get a news this morning, that we (me and Krzysztof), co-founders of DD@H and SONM.IO platforms was kicked out from SONM with breaking written and signed agreement, without any sensible explanation from our Russian colleagues...
In fact, we lost trust for their intentions as we (after few hours of very difficult discussions) found, that their just use our job to create scam project to collect money from investors.
Currently we discuss future steps what we should make.

So, as we wrote before, we have to apologise all of you and just finish work on this server and be in hope, that you will join us in eventual new project when the all mess finish...
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Message 4836 - Posted: 4 Apr 2017, 11:49:54 UTC

Disgusted to hear this, but to be truthful, I'm surprised that the use of BOINC for fraud or the project not doing what it claims is not more common.
I'm sure that no-one will blame you two admins as we all know the good work you both do with other projects and your team.
This will not affect my trust of the two of you for projects you currently run or launch in the future.
Looks like time to dump my remaining units here and detach.
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Message 4837 - Posted: 4 Apr 2017, 11:57:28 UTC - in response to Message 4836.  

Disgusted to hear this, but to be truthful, I'm surprised that the use of BOINC for fraud or the project not doing what it claims is not more common.
I'm sure that no-one will blame you two admins as we all know the good work you both do with other projects and your team.
This will not affect my trust of the two of you for projects you currently run or launch in the future.
Looks like time to dump my remaining units here and detach.

Thank you.
In fact, applications was doing what we wrote - I'm personally compiled it from sources.
The problem arrive with SONM - which was "mother" of DD@H - there is very suspicious activity of persons who takes control over project, so we don't want to be connected with them any way, even with our contracts which was broken by others...
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Message 4838 - Posted: 4 Apr 2017, 11:59:49 UTC - in response to Message 4835.  
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Hmm.... So the project in real calculates smth rather different and this was not as described in the description, right?
Ok, I understand now, thanks
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Message 4839 - Posted: 4 Apr 2017, 12:57:24 UTC - in response to Message 4836.  

Disgusted to hear this, but to be truthful, I'm surprised that the use of BOINC for fraud or the project not doing what it claims is not more common.
I'm sure that no-one will blame you two admins as we all know the good work you both do with other projects and your team.
This will not affect my trust of the two of you for projects you currently run or launch in the future.
Looks like time to dump my remaining units here and detach.


Well said.
I'm totally agree especially with that trust part.
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Message 4840 - Posted: 4 Apr 2017, 14:25:42 UTC

this is very bad news . i hope we see us soon @anotherproject


greetings and all the best
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Message 4841 - Posted: 4 Apr 2017, 14:55:31 UTC - in response to Message 4839.  

How then was this Project Approved by BOINC, or is their no oversight anymore by BOINC?
Not to happy with Berkeley https://boinc.berkeley.edu/ and how many other BOINC Projects are in this state?
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Message 4842 - Posted: 4 Apr 2017, 15:16:00 UTC - in response to Message 4836.  

Disgusted to hear this, but to be truthful, I'm surprised that the use of BOINC for fraud or the project not doing what it claims is not more common.
I'm sure that no-one will blame you two admins as we all know the good work you both do with other projects and your team.
This will not affect my trust of the two of you for projects you currently run or launch in the future.
Looks like time to dump my remaining units here and detach.

I agree with you
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Message 4843 - Posted: 4 Apr 2017, 15:32:53 UTC - in response to Message 4841.  
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How then was this Project Approved by BOINC, or is their no oversight anymore by BOINC?
Not to happy with Berkeley https://boinc.berkeley.edu/ and how many other BOINC Projects are in this state?


Each project is it's own entity. There is no controlling body. There is no "BOINC". BOINC is just a piece of software that projects and volunteers use as they like.
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Message 4844 - Posted: 4 Apr 2017, 17:17:29 UTC - in response to Message 4837.  
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Disgusted to hear this, but to be truthful, I'm surprised that the use of BOINC for fraud or the project not doing what it claims is not more common.
I'm sure that no-one will blame you two admins as we all know the good work you both do with other projects and your team.
This will not affect my trust of the two of you for projects you currently run or launch in the future.
Looks like time to dump my remaining units here and detach.

Thank you.
In fact, applications was doing what we wrote - I'm personally compiled it from sources.
The problem arrive with SONM - which was "mother" of DD@H - there is very suspicious activity of persons who takes control over project, so we don't want to be connected with them any way, even with our contracts which was broken by others...



The problem is that DrugDiscovery@home and SONM project got so much interconnected that it became a pain to separate one from another. SONM had one core team and DrugDiscovery@home had another core team, but these teams were interacting and got conflict regarding project management and technology. I have signed an agreement, which separates one project from another and transfers my rights on SONM project to another team (under certain conditions, which are not disclosed yet). The job, which was done by Krzysztof Piszczek and Krzysztof Faryna is crucial for DrugDiscovery@home.
Nobody was cancelling our agreement with them regarding DrugDiscovery@home, which was signed and is still in force.
All my duties regarding DrugDiscovery@home and regarding shares of incomes, which Digital BioPharm ltd. will get from SONM are still in force.
I just renegotiated our agreement with CTO of SONM project, who now will lead SONM project. All situation is a very big pain for me as far as I feel somehow responsible for it, but I really have no ideal solution. Any assistance from community can be appreciated.
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Message 4845 - Posted: 4 Apr 2017, 17:40:31 UTC - in response to Message 4844.  

Apologise Andrey, but my agreement was for DD@H AND SONM.
The change was done without my knowledge nor approval. Also, our work was base for both projects and was planned and continued for both.

In fact, you have made your own decision and break decisions made no more then 3 or 4 days ago without any consultancy with us - you even don't send an email with info about it.
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I will not continue this discussion here any more, I leave this for your consistence...
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Message 4846 - Posted: 4 Apr 2017, 18:20:04 UTC - in response to Message 4845.  
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THIS IS OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM ANDREY VORONKOV, Lead of DrugDiscovery@home project and former lead of SONM project.

Dear Community members, project SONM was started by me and Sergey Ponomarev during summer 2016. The initial idea of the project was to build it on BOINC platform and develop P2P BOINC technology. Therefore Krzysztof Piszczek and Krzysztof Faryna were invited to make both DrugDiscovery@home and SONM project. DrugDiscovery@home was supposed to be a prototype for SONM project. However, during interaction of our lead developer Krzysztof Piszczek and SONM CTO Sergey Ponomarev different views on technology have started to arise. Sergey Ponomarev has decided to avoid BOINC usage further. As a CEO I tried to unite the team, rather than identify the issue as soon as possible. That was my mistake. Early stage separation of team into two could be a solution. This has led to current team separation. I am convinced that team of Sergey Ponomarev, Alexey Antonov and other team members (russian part basically) can make a successful ICO and a valuable decentralised general-purpose computing platform SONM. Therefore I have signed an agreement with them, which upgrade our technological map and invite new members in the SONM platform.
Project DrugDiscovery@home exists since 2009. Until now the team of Krzysztof Piszczek and Krzysztof Faryna were the best BOINC administrators team, which was managing the project. However, as a CEO I did a mistake and invited the same team into two different projects, which raised issues with another part of the team in the second project. The second project, where our colleagues from Poland were involved was SONM.
Krzysztof Piszczek and Krzysztof Faryna were mostly involved in DrugDiscovery@home project and therefore are very welcome to proceed with its development. All rights on scripts, related to DrugDiscovery@home project are transferred by Sergey Ponomarev to the project DrugDiscovery@home and its team (Krzysztof Piszczek and Krzysztof Faryna). I am ready and happy to ask Krzysztof Piszczek and Krzysztof Faryna to continue their work on DrugDiscovery@home and ready to transfer to them a leading role in DrugDiscovery@home project instead of me.
All efforts and suggestions from BOINC and Blockchain communities to unite the team and prevent destruction of the projects are welcome! I have freedom to transfer my own rights on SONM project. The mistake, which we both did that you didn t have an agreement with another part of the team.
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Message 4853 - Posted: 6 Apr 2017, 9:16:31 UTC - in response to Message 4845.  

Apologise Andrey, but my agreement was for DD@H AND SONM.
The change was done without my knowledge nor approval. Also, our work was base for both projects and was planned and continued for both.

In fact, you have made your own decision and break decisions made no more then 3 or 4 days ago without any consultancy with us - you even don't send an email with info about it.
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I will not continue this discussion here any more, I leave this for your consistence...



I informed you about communications and possibility that such agreement will be signed on 30th of March. After this Goofyx has written e-mail that he deletes all his scripts from BOINC server because I have started negotiations. My contract didn t affected your rights. SONM team is ready to keep your share if you accept new CEO and technology. Also I still owe you the negotiated share of incomes, which I will get from SONM (if any).
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Message 4855 - Posted: 12 Apr 2017, 4:34:08 UTC - in response to Message 4853.  
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The main issue was that current DrugDiscovery@home admins have broken their agreement. They were invited on certain conditions to participate in SONM and DrugDiscovery@home projects.These conditions were related to their shares from incomes, but didn t covered any obligations about CEO of the company. When majority of our shareholders have decided to switch CEO of SONM before the pre-ico, Krzysztof Piszek and Krzysztof Faryna were in minority and took damaging actions by switching off sonm.io web site from the hosting and switching off DrugDiscovery@home server. As far as this was an obvious breaking of the agreement about proper work from their side, they were removed from SONM project. This week is the last one, when they have a possibility to restore normal work of DrugDiscovery@home server and start sending the tasks. If they fail or refuse to do it, then we have to terminate our agreement with them on DrugDiscovery@home as well.
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