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Message 1983 - Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 4:45:12 UTC

I have started working on a screensaver. I am using the screensaver code posted by Docking@Home

http://code.google.com/p/docking-at-home-screensaver/
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Message 1988 - Posted: 17 Dec 2009, 6:27:40 UTC
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Great, thanks for the effort Jack.

I guess these are known already?
1. Percentage complete stays at 0% (also when I manually open the graphics in tab "Resources"), also no 2d graphs for min.energy, RMSD
2. The news ticker at bottom of page does not scroll smooth to left side (is this dependent on cpuload?)
3. logo.jpg looks blurry and doesn't scale good when resizing the graphics tab. Can there be used another resolution or a better/scalable file format?
4. could there be some explanation text for the protein, ligand, complex tabs? Or a link that leads to a special web page (for getting further info on topic). I mean for a newbie it could look like this: "Ah, screensaver/graphics tab works and there is something moving." After 1 minute: "Ok, but what is this exactly? RMSD (=Root mean square deviation), VDW, CPK"


Could you elaborate more what should be paid attention to?
1. calculation works? in different scenarios
2. see more test cases at Screensaver tests
3. ...


nothing more checked so far
info: I have disabled screensaver on my OS, but tried with windows screensaver preview
host: win7 ultimate64, quad
WUs: autodock with mgl beta test v1.04
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Message 1991 - Posted: 17 Dec 2009, 16:51:43 UTC - in response to Message 1988.  
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I'll be working on this one component at a time. Its a mater of developing modifications to our applications to output compatible data. For now we have static structures that are generated at workunit creation. Currently it only serves a purpose of brief entertainment and awe. I hope we can make it have diagnostic ability by representing the data produced by these simulations.

1. Percentage complete stays at 0% (also when I manually open the graphics in tab "Resources"), also no 2d graphs for min.energy, RMSD

Have to either revise the screensaver to read our progress bar or our application to output into the text file that the screensaver reads.

2. The news ticker at bottom of page does not scroll smooth to left side (is this dependent on cpuload?)

I don't have an answer on that. Lets observe it a little more. You could run GPU grid and suspend it...see if it makes any difference.

3. logo.jpg looks blurry and doesn't scale good when resizing the graphics tab. Can there be used another resolution or a better/scalable file format?

There are many tricks we can do. Resizing the logo using an original vector image seems easiest.

4. could there be some explanation text for the protein, ligand, complex tabs? Or a link that leads to a special web page (for getting further info on topic). I mean for a newbie it could look like this: "Ah, screensaver/graphics tab works and there is something moving." After 1 minute: "Ok, but what is this exactly? RMSD (=Root mean square deviation), VDW, CPK"

RMSD is used in this context to measure of distances between atoms that takes into account variance. It is employed in various other statistical studies unrelated to molecular analysis where statiticians are interested in how much data varies.

We could create a link to documentation on it. Can you do a google search and see if there is an FAQ on the Docking@Home Screen Saver? They are the ones who developed this code. I wonder if I should credit them in the logo or somewhere else in the screen saver.

Could you elaborate more what should be paid attention to?
1. calculation works? in different scenarios
I'll tell you when I add calculations. I have to put thought into these calculations and how to design this integration. We are using different scientific applications than this screensaver was designed for

2. see more test cases at Screensaver tests
Only on Beta for now. I don't want to use an incomplete screen saver for production runs
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Message 1993 - Posted: 18 Dec 2009, 14:33:41 UTC - in response to Message 1991.  

I released some screen saver workunits for the mdrun_beta windows platform. Please report on how it runs

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Message 1998 - Posted: 19 Dec 2009, 18:29:28 UTC

>I wonder if I should credit them in the logo or somewhere else in the screen saver.
How would you like others to value your work? :-)

Besides: the source code was published under: GNU Lesser General Public License
-> so the conditions there apply

If I remember correct (someone needs to look these up please, I am no lawyer):
- the screensaver you will create must also be LGPL (or GPL)
- if using in conjunction in another program the other program must also be released under LGPL or compatible one
- you must make available source code

I guess when talking directly with the screen saver creators they can also unrestrict some of the conditions, could be worth sending an email.

>I released some screen saver workunits for the mdrun_beta windows platform. Please report on how it runs
got no WUs yet, server seems down
Message from server: Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance
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Message 2004 - Posted: 23 Dec 2009, 0:35:45 UTC - in response to Message 1998.  

Its up now. I sent an IM to Dr Taufer. We've met a couple times. As far as the GNU License and providing the source code...A simple link to their svn repostiory should be fine somewhere obvious on our site. I don't know where to put it so its not awkward looking.
http://code.google.com/p/docking-at-home-screensaver/

I'm just wondering with respect to placing credit on the screen saver itself. I put some credits on the news ticker, but Andrey did not like the way it looked.
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Message 2005 - Posted: 23 Dec 2009, 7:33:42 UTC - in response to Message 2004.  

Hello
Long ago I does not use the screensavers and I see a new cycle through all the details of my projects on my machine if I leave alone DDH turn I see in detail the work of my 4 wu, good thing, but actually I do not see the 8 wu being I7 my 860, I'll assume it will come later
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Message 2011 - Posted: 25 Dec 2009, 16:39:11 UTC - in response to Message 2005.  

I'm doing some more testing with the beta app. Testing some changes I made.
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Message 2016 - Posted: 25 Dec 2009, 21:45:53 UTC - in response to Message 2011.  
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Not sure, if this is related to the mentioned changes, but:
under win7-64 with this host and boinc 6.10.17:
boincmanager got under very heavy load

I guess it was because I had many "autodock with mgl beta test v1.10"-WUs in download queue. Can the amount of WUs being sent out reduced or limited per a certain time interval?

The only solution left was:
detach DD@H and reattach, which caused all WUs being lost in nirvana
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Message 2017 - Posted: 26 Dec 2009, 3:49:07 UTC - in response to Message 2016.  

Not sure, if this is related to the mentioned changes, but:
under win7-64 with this host and boinc 6.10.17:
boincmanager got under very heavy load

I guess it was because I had many "autodock with mgl beta test v1.10"-WUs in download queue. Can the amount of WUs being sent out reduced or limited per a certain time interval?

The only solution left was:
detach DD@H and reattach, which caused all WUs being lost in nirvana


these are assigned to the project dev group... and that's why you and the rest other the group got at least 100... hell, i have over 200.

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Message 2018 - Posted: 26 Dec 2009, 4:03:10 UTC - in response to Message 2017.  
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Thanks, I understand

I think the behaviour might arise from something specific on this OS:
- I have limited downloads to 2 tasks (one of my debug settings)
- running other projects
- boincmanager (win version)
- slow HD
- ...

My boincmanager under win hung (showed "communicating with boinc"-msg when I wanted to do some action in boincmanager) and so I either had to wait until these downloads would finish.
e.g. atm I just have 10 beta DD@H-WUs and all is fine

e.g. under linux64 I didn't have such a problem. The settings there were: no download limit, was working in memory only + had no other projects running.
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Message 2019 - Posted: 26 Dec 2009, 15:41:27 UTC - in response to Message 2018.  

I was trying to clear out some of those workuntis. Eventually I ended up deleting the asgn_ tasks from the database. Should have cleared up by now. It has for me at least. My poor little laptop takes forever to crunch.
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Message 2021 - Posted: 26 Dec 2009, 17:53:14 UTC - in response to Message 2019.  

My poor little laptop takes forever to crunch.



dido.
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Message 2023 - Posted: 30 Dec 2009, 8:57:24 UTC - in response to Message 2021.  

dido.

You meant:
- Dido?
- Didi?
- Dodo?
- Dada?
- Dudu?
- Dude?

Or perhaps just plain Ditto?

Or are you saying you're a hot dad, therefore a Diddo?
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Message 2030 - Posted: 30 Dec 2009, 15:30:02 UTC - in response to Message 2023.  

dido.

You meant:
- Dido?
- Didi?
- Dodo?
- Dada?
- Dudu?
- Dude?

Or perhaps just plain Ditto?

Or are you saying you're a hot dad, therefore a Diddo?


You pesky little word corrector.. i mean ditto... but i claim that i was still feelings the effects of my hangover on that day!.

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Message 2041 - Posted: 30 Dec 2009, 22:03:46 UTC - in response to Message 2030.  

but i claim that i was still feelings the effects of my hangover on that day!.

:-D


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